
I don’t record every bench chat I have, sometimes because people don’t want me to record them. Sometimes because I don’t realise stopping for a quick catch up is going to turn into a “Bench Chat” moment. On this occasion a simple question to me – “What are you up to?” Evolved into a conversation neither of us was expecting. I said I was looking at art and nature for the next Green Champions newsletter. Then we got on to music, yes – I’m exploring our relationship with natural sounds and music. That led on to being “cut off” from the sounds of nature when we are inside. More conversation, imagine fast forwarding, took us to how all our senses will be depleted when we aren’t – outside, we don’t see nature, we don’t feel it, smell it, taste it or hear it. Fast forward a bit more, what percentage of our time do we spend outside, we presumed it would be low. How different would that have been when we worked outside? More thoughts whirled, more words exchanged, the clocks changing this weekend, farming, industrialisation, climate change and then this. The person I was talking with said “This would have made a good Bench Chat” I answered that it was a good bench chat (even though we were standing up). Then they said “Can you record something.” I got out my phone and this is what they said to me.
“Sometimes people say that working-class communities don’t have time to think about the planet, but that’s forgetting something important. Not so long ago, it was working people who understood the land best, because their lives depended on it.
Before the Industrial Revolution, most families worked with the seasons. Farmers, labourers, craftspeople, they knew the language of soil, weather, and light. The land wasn’t scenery; it was livelihood, food, and home. Caring for the earth wasn’t a moral choice — it was, um, everyday survival and a shared responsibility.
“The people who once lived most closely with the earth are now often the most cut off from it.”
As industry and cities grew, that close connection faded. We moved indoors, our work moved indoors, days lengthened no matter what the season was, and nature became something we visited rather than lived in. Today, many working-class communities live in areas with fewer green spaces and poorer air, these are the same people who once knew the land most intimately.
When we talk about “net zero” or “biodiversity,” it can sound so distant from real life. But if we say warm homes, fair jobs, clean air, safe parks, and good food, maybe we can find common ground. After all these aren’t luxuries they’re, um, the basics of a decent life – a healthy life, a happy one and a happy planet.
Working people have always cared for the world through action, not slogans: mending, reusing, sharing, and growing. The task now is to recognise their wisdom, to listen to it, and to build your fairer, greener city from the ground up.”
I’m not posting the recording because they didn’t like the sound of their voice on it, but they were happy for me to share their words, which I have.





















